Friday, November 11, 2005

Romans: Gay Doc Out Nov. 29

The Word is posted, and thankfully -- according to the Italian vaticanista Andrea Tornielli -- it seems we'll have five days to digest our respective turkey before the hammer falls on the homosems (or does it?):
Tornielli writes that he has seen the document, the title of which he gives as "Instruction on Criteria of Vocational Discernment regarding Persons with Homosexual Tendencies in View of their Admission to the Priesthood and to Holy Orders." Tornielli says that it's eight pages long, and gives the publication date as Nov. 29.

NCR reported last week that the date would be late November.

Tornielli's piece confirms and adds details to previous NCR reports, to wit: Rather than an outright ban on the admission of homosexuals, the document will disqualify "those who practice homosexuality, who possess deeply rooted homosexual tendencies, or who sustain the so-called 'gay culture.' "

To make the distinction between "deeply rooted tendencies" and transitory behavior, the document indicates that a candidate should be celibate for at least three years prior to ordination to the diaconate, which usually precedes ordination to the priesthood.

It is up to bishops, seminary rectors and religious superiors, according to this summary of the document, to ascertain the "affective maturity" of candidates for the priesthood.

And reasonable people can live with that.



Blogger Liz said...

It does sound reasonable - though I wonder if heterosexual seminarians must be celibate/potentially prove they have been celibate for three years as well?

11/11/05 13:13  
Blogger Jimmy Mac said...

Liz m'dear, do get serious.

Double standards only apply one way, doncha know?

As a woman in this church you should be very well aware of that little fact of Holy Muddah Church.

11/11/05 14:09  
Blogger patrick said...

Well, of course, Liz. I remember reading that Gerald Coleman either imposed or wanted to impose a five-year chastity requirement on everyone when he was head of the seminary in San Francisco.

In any event, I don't know if homosexuals ought to have more heightened scrutiny than a heterosexual counterpart, but it certainly requires a different scrutiny because the issues are different.

The gloom and doomers already despairing at CWNEWS, and no doubt Andrew Sullivan will complain and use it as another opportunity to make cheap shots at the Holy Father. But, I do agree it seems on the surface eminently reasonable and fair to all parties.

11/11/05 14:17  
Blogger Ben said...

I think yall have it wrong. The doc. is reported to say....

"Tendencies that were merely the expression of a transitory problem, such as that of an extended adolescence, must be clearly overcome at least three years prior to diaconal ordination."

Not that a person must be celibate for three years but that he must have overcome any same sex atractions for three years. In other words he must have overcame his homosexuality. Otherwise a 'gay' sem. could be having sex his first four years as a sem. with other men and still be ordained, as long as he gives it up by his seventh year.(that is if he is in a eight year program and is made a deacon his seventh year). This is rediculas!

It sounds to me like the doc. will ban 'gay'' men, but will be open to those that at one time struggled but have since overcome!


12/11/05 10:28  

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